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Rel'k Bloodlor
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:10:00 -
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dose any one even relise that the drake was and is the problem it breakes the mold, its the deffence of the Caldari gun boats with the mids of our sheild boats. I can't wait for my drakes to get this well needed damage boost! ROF on a BC till now thats been a BS and up thing.
Hi-sec mission runners you can do the exact damage you need at ranges to far for the NPC's to fight back from and 25%ROF is more that 25%dammage to one type.
Low sec PvPers HAM's any one? I like the idea of going toe to toe with canes 
null sec get back in your tempest, why were you even in drakes before? Oh ya every one can fly them.
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Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.18 15:16:00 -
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No your right i don't do hi sec lvl 4's, but to be fare that's a team or BS job any way and you know it. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.18 16:27:00 -
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Not-Apsalar wrote:Rel'k Bloodlor wrote:dose any one even relise that the drake was and is the problem it breakes the mold, its the deffence of the Caldari gun boats with the mids of our sheild boats. I can't wait for my drakes to get this well needed damage boost! ROF on a BC till now thats been a BS and up thing. Hi-sec mission runners you can do the exact damage you need at ranges to far for the NPC's to fight back from and 25%ROF is more that 25%dammage to one type. Low sec PvPers HAM's any one? I like the idea of going toe to toe with canes null sec get back in your tempest, why were you even in drakes before? Oh ya every one can fly them. You really think they'll up the damage and rof for HAMs? Did you see what they did to the Naga? Once they saw that it would actually be a pretty good ship with torps they removed the capability of the ship to fit it. Now it's just another Caldari rail sniper ultimately destined for the back end of everyone's hangar because of broken warp mechanics and better Minmatar ships of the same class with better weaponry, speed, sig, and align time. It's going to be a heavy missile only bonus if anything, and if many of the people here had their way it would be another useless rail platform
LOL
Ya no one flys naga's LOL
No It lost its crappy range on 2 weapons for range and damage on the guns that deliver damage instantly. If it stayed the way it was it wouldn't have been flown as it dose not have the tank to wait around for a few waves of torps to hit.
If any thing It wont get the bonus to assault missiles, tho i hope it dose i want to insta pop figgs in it! |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.18 17:03:00 -
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octahexx Charante wrote:ccp...maybe you should check some facts before you eat out of the hand of csm...caldari overpowered?
yeah every fleet in null is not minmatar or amarr...its caldari the ravens and the feared pvp scorpion and feroxes are ruling the nullsec...we dont have anyway of stopping these overpowered pvp gods of eve.
the tengu and the drake is the only reason anyone would ever skill caldari so if you wanna kill that entire race nerf it because nobody will skill from kestrel to tengu.
maybe you should stop doing "nerfs" at random and thereby screwing up all the races...nerfing is what led you here in the first place..random whacks with the bat until everything is crap...and the if a ship is not crap and actually can do anything its op and needs the bat.....can you see the pattern here?
whack-a-mole nerfing and try to hit anything functional that popsup because everything else keeps getting pushed down.
Hi you seem new here, Its not a nerf its a change, your ship is only getting your bonuses changed, the sad thing is you all will keep bitching till they leave them the same and DO NERF the stats of the hull. So keep it up, don't learn how to take advantage of the new bonuses and get use to the ship falling at you stupid lvl 4's |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.18 17:11:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:The drake is popular precisely because it is not in line with the caracal or the raven. Why fly a caracal when you can fly a rupture, arbitrator, or thorax. Any of those ships completley out class it, as does the stabber and the maller tbh. The raven is complete garbage for pvp in today's meta compared to every other BS out there.
Perhaps before bringing the drake 'in line' with the caracal and raven, the caracal and raven could be brought 'in line' with their non-caldari equivalents?
As it stands there are 3 reasons to train caldari. Drake, Tengu, Falcon. (Rook and scorp get honorable mention).
Putting aside the recons (as all recons of all races are awesome) that leaves the Drake and the tengu.
Um the 3 ships you named don't project there damage 100k. Also with there close range missiles they do come close in alpha.
The Caldari are a range over damage race, and the caracal and raven are some of there few ships that do good damage and have good range. Also you left out the naga, rohk, and ferox 2 of them still tank well, but don't do good damage, and one dose good damge at range with no tank.
Your opinion of witch ships are worth it is just that. Sorry you can only be successful with the 2 most OP ships in there class. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
Mecha Enterprises Fleet
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Posted - 2012.01.18 17:23:00 -
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Ok to quote you need to do it from thr forum page or put a name back in to make obvious who you quoting.
They have been fine in PvP and will be better now. Instant damage is less needed for engagements longer than 5 mins.
Its one of the highest used PvP ships. Them doing lvl 4's is a mistake, no other BC can on there tank alone. |
Rel'k Bloodlor
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Posted - 2012.01.19 10:27:00 -
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Well the only thing the Drake and the Myrm have in common is they both have the same defence bonus the tier 1 BC of there race have. Every one else have a tier 1 for def and a tier 2 for off. In the case of the Drake its giving it a tank it should have never had, and with the Myrm its gimping it's DPS.
Every ones crys of "it's the only good caldari ship" or "it's the only good ship for noobs" are partly right. The Drake as it was lowers the value of the other ships, why fly a corical or moa or ferox one theres drake? Why train skills higher or do T2 one theres drake in less time? That out look tainted my views as a noob for quite some time. Every ship I go it I tryed to fly like a drake and most can't. How many other ships tank that hard for that price? But this buy no means is how I am to day, I branched out tryed new things and learned that most hulls can as part of a team do a job.
This drake change you fear will only make you have to alter you thought proses and reevaluate how you fly. As far as the whole level 4's thing go's how much tank do you lose vs. damage increase? Most fits I've seen use two racial hardeners any way so its not like you have no tank now. Odds are you will still get 6 mids and 5.4k starting shields. For PvP your missiles will hit sooner and more often. |
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